OK Musical Influences *2 (okharpman)

This is a continuation of a series concerning how music influenced the culture of the South West and Central parts of the United States. The musical genre would be described as "eclectic," drawing from Country, Western Swing, Blues, Jazz, Gospel, and underground Country Music as it exists today.

Thursday, June 15, 2006

Oklahoma Music

Oklahoma Music

Oklahoma Music

Oklahoma Music

Oklahoma Music

Wednesday, April 26, 2006

Is this public domain or what!



Red River Valley is certainly public domain. Look a the three versions listed below. The words are different on all of them. As I research the song, it appears to me that there is a "mean spirited" disagreement on this song about who wrote it and where its about.

If you know anything about Oklahoma, you know that the bottom of Oklahoma has the center of the RED RIVER as its southern border. This actually means, that its border is liquid. One good rain can cause a meander, the nature of looping in old rivers, and when a meander has over looped itself, it forms a new boundry line where either Texas gains land and Oklahoma loses land, or Oklahoma gains land and Texas loses land. It is historically a hot potato.

An old, meandering river has made valleys and usually exist in a valley. But one of the writers below, makes a good case that "The Red River Valley" was written by someone who was closer to Canada and the valleys of Montana or South or North Dakota. Does it make any difference? Can we add verses to it? You bet we can, and we can do it and get up and sing them, without any fear of being sued by a controlling copyright. I have memorized this song before, and we have sung it at programs, where I sing the lead and Holli harmonizes. Holli is good at harmonizing and loves to do it. Her voice isn't that strong, but she is never off key. Can you think of other women singers who have not loud voices. Let's name a few women singers.

Emmy Lou Harris - Not Loud
Allison Kraus - Not Loud
Wynona Judd - Loud
Naomi Judd - Moderate but harmonizing
Dolly Parton - Loud
Shania Twain - Loud
Martina McBride - Loud
Reba McEntire - Loud
You decide.
Jessica Andrews Suzy Bogguss
Deana Carter Terri Clark
Patsy Cline Tammy Cochran
Dixie Chicks Sara Evans
Crystal Gayle Faith Hill
The Kinleys Alison Krauss
Patty Loveless Loretta Lynn
Kathy Mattea Martina McBride
Lila McCann Reba McEntire
Jo Dee Messina Lorrie Morgan
Jamie O'Neal Dolly Parton
LeAnn Rimes SHeDAISY
Pam Tillis Tanya Tucker
Shania Twain Lee Ann Womack
Chely Wright Tammy Wynette
Wynonna Trisha Yearwood

So, do you feel creative. Red River Valley is a great song to hone-up your song writing skills. Who knows, we might have some budding songwriters in this class. Do I like to write songs? Is the sky blue? Do we have troops in Iraq? Do we have a Republican President in the US? Are grizzly bears dangerous? Can black bears be dangerous? Will a cougar eat your flesh? I love to write songs. So, where did this song come from?

Where oh where, are you tonight?
Why did you leave me here all alone?
I looked the world over and thought I found true love.
You found another and FFFFTHHHHHH you were gone.

Want to hear one of my verses? This song is not,
NOT public Domain. It is owned by Ya Hoo, I think.

Now we don't get older, we only get better.
The time of our life is always at hand.
We've waited so long and our ship has come in!
And no one can do it like McDonald's can!

(Everybody!)

Now we don't get older, we only get better.
The time of our life is here at our hands.
We've waited so long and our ship has come in!
And no one can do it like McDonald's can!



1) Red River Valley






From this valley they say you are going
We will miss your bright eyes and sweet smile
For they say you are taking the sunshine
That has brightened our path for a while

Come and sit by my side if you love me
Do not hasten to bid me adieu
But remember the Red Valley
And the cowboy who loved you so true

Won't you think of the valley you're leaving
Oh how lonely, how sad it will be?
Oh think of the fond heart you're breaking
And the grief you are causing to me

As you go to your home by the ocean
May you never forget those sweet hours
That we spent in the Red River Valley
And the love we exchanged mid the flowers
Red River Valley
Download Midi File
Barry Taylor
Information Lyrics
This was originally In the Bright Mohawk Valley, a tune popular in New York. It spread throughout the South and cowboys in the Red River Valley localized it to become the tune we are familiar with. From this valley they say you are going
We will miss your bright eyes and sweet smile
For they say you are taking the sunshine
That has brightened our path for a while

Come and sit by my side if you love me
Do not hasten to bid me adieu
But remember the Red River Valley
And the cowboy who loved you so true

Won't you think of the valley you're leaving
Oh how lonely, how sad it will be?
Oh think of the fond heart you're breaking
And the grief you are causing to me

Come and sit by my side if you love me
Do not hasten to bid me adieu
But remember the Red River Valley
And the cowboy who loved you so true

As you go to your home by the ocean
May you never forget those sweet hours
That we spent in the Red River Valley
And the love we exchanged mid the flowers

Come and sit by my side if you love me
Do not hasten to bid me adieu
But remember the Red River Valley
And the cowboy who loved you so true

Information and lyrics From



I remember watching Roy Rogers when I was a Chicago cowboy in the 1940s. Bob Nolan and the Sons of the Pioneers sang Red River Valley in a movie by the same name. This song always reminds me of my childhood fantasies of riding the range with a cowboy hat and a good chestnut mare.
Lyrics:
Red River Valley
[G] From this valley they say you are going
We will miss your bright eyes and sweet smile [D]
[G] For they say you are taking the [C] sunshine
That has [D] brightened our path for a [G] while

Come and sit by my side if you love me
Do not hasten to bid me adieu
But remember the Red River Valley
And the cowboy who loved you so true

Won't you think of the valley you're leaving
Oh how lonely, how sad it will be?
Oh think of the fond heart you're breaking
And the grief you are causing to me

As you go to your home by the ocean
May you never forget those sweet hours
That we spent in the Red River Valley
And the love we exchanged mid the flowers

Repeat first verse





Red River Valley
arranged and adapted by Arlo Guthrie

From this valley they say you are going
We will miss your bright eyes and sweet smile
For they say you are taking the sunshine
That has brightened our pathways awhile

CHORUS:
Come and sit by my side, if you love me
Do not hasten to bid me adieu
Just remember the Red River Valley
And the cowboy who loved you so true

I've been thinking a long time, my darling
Of the sweet words you never would say
Now, alas, must my fond hopes all vanish
For they say you are gong away

Do you think of the valley you're leaving
O how lonely and how dreary it will be
And do you think of the kind hearts you're breaking
And the pain you are causing to me

CHORUS
They will bury me where you have wandered
Near the hills where the daffodils grow
When you're gone from the Red River Valley
For I can't live without you I know

CHORUS


posted by okharpman at 2:47 PM
1 Comments:

Ryan said...
okharpman,

You posted a great comment on my blog! I really appreciate it.

I'm not sure if this is a coincedence or if you know me or my father, but I grew up in Oklahoma City.

Regardless, I see that you're an Oklahoma music advocate. What a small world. I sang backup for Arlo Guthrie on a Garrison Keillor's "A Prarie Home Companion" broadcast from the Civic Center in OKC when I was in high school. I was also neck deep in the OKC music and theatre scene where I produced and appeared in many shows.

Thanks for posting!

Best regards,
Ryan
http://PissedAndPetty.blogspot.com

P.S. Please post any response in the comments section of my blog, as this makes for great reading(wink)!

11:13 PM
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